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	<title>Comments on: Goodbye Solo, This American Life, and Ramin Bahrani</title>
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		<title>By: Good Bye Solo &#187; Pierced to the Heart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Good Bye Solo &#187; Pierced to the Heart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 02:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ford: Yes, you&#039;re right about King of Kong, to a degree - I&#039;d read that about Billy. But it IS a story about a culture many often look at disdainfully. I went to an engineering school for my undergraduate degree, a place rife with extreme gamers and gaming culture, and found it refreshing that Steve is a pretty normal guy. You&#039;re right that it&#039;s true that they did force them into something to create a narrative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ford: Yes, you&#8217;re right about King of Kong, to a degree &#8211; I&#8217;d read that about Billy. But it IS a story about a culture many often look at disdainfully. I went to an engineering school for my undergraduate degree, a place rife with extreme gamers and gaming culture, and found it refreshing that Steve is a pretty normal guy. You&#8217;re right that it&#8217;s true that they did force them into something to create a narrative.</p>
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		<title>By: Ford Seeuws</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ford Seeuws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 00:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It took me a while to warm up to Chop Shop, but upon reflection I found it to be a film loaded with reality making it a suitable counterpoint to a film like Slumdog (which I liked, but for very different reasons). While lesser films would have had Ale&#039;s dream fulfilled, this film was a good reminder that dreams can be unrealistic distracting and should be dashed (or prolonged).  

I, too, am looking forward to catching up with Goodbye Solo. 

I would like to mention, however, that while I loved The King of Kong after a first viewing, upon reading up on the circumstances surrounding the film (including a phenomenal article in Harper&#039;s that focused on another of Billy Mitchell&#039;s competitors*), I found that KOK succumbed to the type of box-making you mentioned earlier. It has to have a villain, so through very creative editing and manipulation of the details, the filmmakers force Billy and Steve into their respective boxes of protagonist and antagonist. 
I grow tired of the glut of films that are documentaries in name only. 

* http://laweekly.blogs.com/joshuah_bearman/files/harpers_billy_mitchell.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It took me a while to warm up to Chop Shop, but upon reflection I found it to be a film loaded with reality making it a suitable counterpoint to a film like Slumdog (which I liked, but for very different reasons). While lesser films would have had Ale&#8217;s dream fulfilled, this film was a good reminder that dreams can be unrealistic distracting and should be dashed (or prolonged).  </p>
<p>I, too, am looking forward to catching up with Goodbye Solo. </p>
<p>I would like to mention, however, that while I loved The King of Kong after a first viewing, upon reading up on the circumstances surrounding the film (including a phenomenal article in Harper&#8217;s that focused on another of Billy Mitchell&#8217;s competitors*), I found that KOK succumbed to the type of box-making you mentioned earlier. It has to have a villain, so through very creative editing and manipulation of the details, the filmmakers force Billy and Steve into their respective boxes of protagonist and antagonist.<br />
I grow tired of the glut of films that are documentaries in name only. </p>
<p>* <a href="http://laweekly.blogs.com/joshuah_bearman/files/harpers_billy_mitchell.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://laweekly.blogs.com/joshuah_bearman/files/harpers_billy_mitchell.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: M. Leary</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Leary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man Push Cart really did help me appreciate Chop Shop a bit more. I thought the latter feigned a neo-neo-realism that was undercut by his sentimentalism for these two young actors. Man Push Cart is even more effectively unprocessed.

But honestly, thinking back through all the great neo-realist or new wave films about children (400 Blows, Les Mistons, Small Change... okay, new wave), I can&#039;t help but think these auteurs have a hard time de-sentimentalizing stories about children. I guess anything else would be unnatural.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man Push Cart really did help me appreciate Chop Shop a bit more. I thought the latter feigned a neo-neo-realism that was undercut by his sentimentalism for these two young actors. Man Push Cart is even more effectively unprocessed.</p>
<p>But honestly, thinking back through all the great neo-realist or new wave films about children (400 Blows, Les Mistons, Small Change&#8230; okay, new wave), I can&#8217;t help but think these auteurs have a hard time de-sentimentalizing stories about children. I guess anything else would be unnatural.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Overstreet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Overstreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really looking forward to &lt;em&gt;Goodbye Solo&lt;/em&gt;. Thanks for the recommendation. Tony Scott&#039;s mention of &lt;em&gt;Happy-Go-Lucky&lt;/em&gt;&#039;s Poppy as an interesting kindred spirit for this film&#039;s taxi driver, and his note that Bahrani calls &lt;em&gt;The Flowers of St. Francis&lt;/em&gt; an influence for this film, have me extremely curious.

I admired &lt;i&gt;Chop Shop&lt;/i&gt;, but couldn&#039;t get past a sense of detachment from what was happening onscreen. It may be that I&#039;ve seen too many &quot;Dardennes-esque&quot; films recently; perhaps I&#039;m burning out on the style. Or it could be that the style felt too much like Bahrani was a film student trying to make a Dardennes film, without finding something that was his own in the process. I never felt drawn in the way I have been with the stories told by other neorealists. Watching Lance Hammer&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Ballast&lt;/i&gt;,&quot; I was mesmerized, but its neorealism also allowed for some surprisingly impressionistic imagery and a compelling rhythm that was achieved in the editing.

Having said that, I was persuaded - entirely - by the world Bahrani observes here. The actor were convincing, and I doubt that much work was done to prepare any &quot;sets.&quot; It felt like an environment discovered, not fabricated. And I share your enthusiasm for storytelling that allows characters like these their dignity. (Are these some of the people Falk was referring to in Wings of Desire when he mentioned &quot;extra people&quot;?) 

I suppose it&#039;s time to go back and check out &lt;i&gt;Man Push Cart&lt;/i&gt;. Maybe that will help me appreciate &lt;i&gt;Chop Shop&lt;/i&gt; better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really looking forward to <em>Goodbye Solo</em>. Thanks for the recommendation. Tony Scott&#8217;s mention of <em>Happy-Go-Lucky</em>&#8217;s Poppy as an interesting kindred spirit for this film&#8217;s taxi driver, and his note that Bahrani calls <em>The Flowers of St. Francis</em> an influence for this film, have me extremely curious.</p>
<p>I admired <i>Chop Shop</i>, but couldn&#8217;t get past a sense of detachment from what was happening onscreen. It may be that I&#8217;ve seen too many &#8220;Dardennes-esque&#8221; films recently; perhaps I&#8217;m burning out on the style. Or it could be that the style felt too much like Bahrani was a film student trying to make a Dardennes film, without finding something that was his own in the process. I never felt drawn in the way I have been with the stories told by other neorealists. Watching Lance Hammer&#8217;s <i>Ballast</i>,&#8221; I was mesmerized, but its neorealism also allowed for some surprisingly impressionistic imagery and a compelling rhythm that was achieved in the editing.</p>
<p>Having said that, I was persuaded &#8211; entirely &#8211; by the world Bahrani observes here. The actor were convincing, and I doubt that much work was done to prepare any &#8220;sets.&#8221; It felt like an environment discovered, not fabricated. And I share your enthusiasm for storytelling that allows characters like these their dignity. (Are these some of the people Falk was referring to in Wings of Desire when he mentioned &#8220;extra people&#8221;?) </p>
<p>I suppose it&#8217;s time to go back and check out <i>Man Push Cart</i>. Maybe that will help me appreciate <i>Chop Shop</i> better.</p>
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